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	<title>Comments on: Peace for Gaza 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Charlie Marks</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The protests have shown that there&#039;s a greater public understanding of the occupation of the Palestinian territories and the blockade of Gaza - partly, it has to be said, by the absence of a Palestinian &quot;voice&quot; in the form of Hamas. The IDF&#039;s domination of the narrative, coupled with the images of the reality, has disgusted many, as the numbers protesting show.

The issue that has to be forced onto the agenda is that of the arms trade with Israel. I&#039;ve always been sceptical about the idea of an academic boycott or calls for sanctions, which lack the practical narrative of &quot;let&#039;s not fuel the conflict by supplying weapons&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The protests have shown that there&#8217;s a greater public understanding of the occupation of the Palestinian territories and the blockade of Gaza &#8211; partly, it has to be said, by the absence of a Palestinian &#8220;voice&#8221; in the form of Hamas. The IDF&#8217;s domination of the narrative, coupled with the images of the reality, has disgusted many, as the numbers protesting show.</p>
<p>The issue that has to be forced onto the agenda is that of the arms trade with Israel. I&#8217;ve always been sceptical about the idea of an academic boycott or calls for sanctions, which lack the practical narrative of &#8220;let&#8217;s not fuel the conflict by supplying weapons&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Semple</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it is necessarily the destructive form which has persuaded the Greek government. Indeed, the least violent parts of the Greek situation - the occupation of buildings, which is in effect a political Strike - have been amongst the most effective. I&#039;m all for organising for those - and organisation in this respect is key.

It should also be a springboard to a wider move - to force the trades unions to weigh in on our side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is necessarily the destructive form which has persuaded the Greek government. Indeed, the least violent parts of the Greek situation &#8211; the occupation of buildings, which is in effect a political Strike &#8211; have been amongst the most effective. I&#8217;m all for organising for those &#8211; and organisation in this respect is key.</p>
<p>It should also be a springboard to a wider move &#8211; to force the trades unions to weigh in on our side.</p>
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		<title>By: Alderson Warm-Fork</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have been watching videos of the events in Greece over the last few months and the anger yesterday was comparable.&quot;

&quot;To the Israeli and the British governments, popular demonstrations are just something to be factored into the cost of doing business.&quot;

It occurs to me that had the Greek government &#039;factored in&#039; the costs that the weeks of riots would have (a movement which has subsided but certainly not dissipated), they would probably have tried very hard to avoid it. I&#039;m wondering - if the similar level of anger here were to take a similarly destructive form (which certainly isn&#039;t proposed as a rival or alternative to targetted actions over things like arms sales), would the government sit up, take notice, and find, after &#039;factoring in&#039; the costs, decide to actually make the Israelis stop/not start?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have been watching videos of the events in Greece over the last few months and the anger yesterday was comparable.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;To the Israeli and the British governments, popular demonstrations are just something to be factored into the cost of doing business.&#8221;</p>
<p>It occurs to me that had the Greek government &#8216;factored in&#8217; the costs that the weeks of riots would have (a movement which has subsided but certainly not dissipated), they would probably have tried very hard to avoid it. I&#8217;m wondering &#8211; if the similar level of anger here were to take a similarly destructive form (which certainly isn&#8217;t proposed as a rival or alternative to targetted actions over things like arms sales), would the government sit up, take notice, and find, after &#8216;factoring in&#8217; the costs, decide to actually make the Israelis stop/not start?</p>
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