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	<title>Comments on: Step 4 of 5:  The re-conceptualization of campaigning</title>
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		<title>By: Some thoughts on leftie politics and the unhappy cohabitation of Marxism and feminism &#8230; what is to be undone! &#171; Harpymarx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Some thoughts on leftie politics and the unhappy cohabitation of Marxism and feminism &#8230; what is to be undone! &#171; Harpymarx]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has been interesting posts over at TCF such as on the Labour Left , future of the Left , and Paul&#8217;s Labour Left 5. plan. Plus this article (thanks to Splintered for telling me about it) And this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been interesting posts over at TCF such as on the Labour Left , future of the Left , and Paul&#8217;s Labour Left 5. plan. Plus this article (thanks to Splintered for telling me about it) And this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tim f</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well in some ways, that was a relief, as it&#039;s not too different from what CLPs who do things properly are doing. I don&#039;t think we should ever drop voter id, as it is possible to do the other things properly AND do the voter id.

I agree that there are times when it&#039;s better not to brand things Labour - although it&#039;s worth pointing out that doing so is sometimes the only option as data protection laws mean we couldn&#039;t otherwise use certain resources to send out &quot;what you can do next to support the campaign&quot; mailings etc to people who have, for example, signed petitions.

Contact Creator isn&#039;t monolithic - it depends how you use it what use you get out of it. It&#039;s best used to target particular campaigns on the people who&#039;re most likely to respond - not to exclude some people, but to use limited resources effectively in campaigns that might be constituency-wide rather than just street-wide (when obviously you can contact everyone).

If you send me a non-council e-mail address I&#039;ll send you some info about what we&#039;ve been doing locally (and I think I can hit every point you&#039;ve raised there), which I don&#039;t want to make available publicly.

Agree enthusiastically about getting into workplaces (also sheltered homes etc), which can be difficult, but is very important. We&#039;ve had some success with that locally, but I&#039;ll admit that antipathy towards the national government amongst some trade unionists can make it more difficult that I&#039;d like it to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well in some ways, that was a relief, as it&#8217;s not too different from what CLPs who do things properly are doing. I don&#8217;t think we should ever drop voter id, as it is possible to do the other things properly AND do the voter id.</p>
<p>I agree that there are times when it&#8217;s better not to brand things Labour &#8211; although it&#8217;s worth pointing out that doing so is sometimes the only option as data protection laws mean we couldn&#8217;t otherwise use certain resources to send out &#8220;what you can do next to support the campaign&#8221; mailings etc to people who have, for example, signed petitions.</p>
<p>Contact Creator isn&#8217;t monolithic &#8211; it depends how you use it what use you get out of it. It&#8217;s best used to target particular campaigns on the people who&#8217;re most likely to respond &#8211; not to exclude some people, but to use limited resources effectively in campaigns that might be constituency-wide rather than just street-wide (when obviously you can contact everyone).</p>
<p>If you send me a non-council e-mail address I&#8217;ll send you some info about what we&#8217;ve been doing locally (and I think I can hit every point you&#8217;ve raised there), which I don&#8217;t want to make available publicly.</p>
<p>Agree enthusiastically about getting into workplaces (also sheltered homes etc), which can be difficult, but is very important. We&#8217;ve had some success with that locally, but I&#8217;ll admit that antipathy towards the national government amongst some trade unionists can make it more difficult that I&#8217;d like it to be.</p>
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