Comments on: Leftie blogs do facts, rightwing blogs do not: the case for the prosecution

By: Paul Sagar

Paul Sagar — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:36:41 +0000

Charlotte Gore is an idiot.

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By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:06:34 +0000

Rogue Medic @4: At no point did I say it was good or rational law. Indeed I said the was ‘strangely convoluted’ when it comes to ‘strict liability’.

The post was not about the law, but about the way some bloggers have jumped to conclusions that suit their political positioning on the basis of what any reaonable person can see is very limited evidence to date.

By: Rogue Medic

Rogue Medic — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:46:14 +0000

What had to be done, in the eyes of the law, was for the defendant to plead guilty and then immediately receive an absolute discharge, thus acquiring no criminal record.

This is rational? The law should be written to serve justice, not to serve the law.

Imbuing objects with magical properties is the stuff of fantasy, not of good law.

Zero tolerance laws are no substitute for well written laws enforced by reasonable human beings.

The law states that people, including the police and judges, cannot be trusted to make reasonable decisions, while a mystical object can cast a spell over those within its sphere of influence – a spell causing them to harm others. This is good law?

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Is Rod Liddle really as thick as he makes out « Though Cowards Flinch — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:56:16 +0000

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By: Paul

Paul — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:22:10 +0000

Charlotte @1

My point was not that what I added in the way of facts or basic knowledge; it was about the way left/liberal vs. rightwing blogs reacted.

Left/liberal blogs reacted broadly speaking by asking whether there might be more knowledge/facts needed before taking a view. Rightwing blogs reacted on the basis that the story as reported was just what they needed as further ‘proof’ that the country’s up the swanny/it’s all Zanulibour’s fault etc etc. The trajectory of the comments in the two blog types reflects this as well. look at Jack of Kent’s blog today – where plenty of detail has been added by commenters – and compare it with Andrew Massie’s, where there’s simply ranting.

I wasn’t having a go at your blog in particular, as I’m not familiar with it. It was just one of the first I saw on a quick websearch.

By: Charlotte Gore

Charlotte Gore — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:15:48 +0000

Wait… so you have some specialist knowledge on this subject that suggests that he may, in fact, get an absolute discharge rather than being sentenced.

That’s great. I hope you’re right. That wouldn’t be a miscarriage of justice then but it’s hardly a ‘fact’ that that is definitely going to happen, is it?

Suggesting that this proves left wing blogs do ‘facts’ and right wing blogs do not is.. false. All you’ve added is informed speculation, and all I’ve done is talk about the facts as reported in the original story.

As it happens the liberal opinion has been almost unanimously disgusted with this (from left and right liberals), the conservative opinion much more divided, as it happens.