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	<title>Comments on: Class, narratives and Jim Inhofe on climate change</title>
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		<title>By: marty</title>
		<link>http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/12/18/class-narratives-and-jim-inhofe-on-climate-change/#comment-4010</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[see, i have avidly been of the opinion that people who deny climate change are on par with rapists since all this stuff hit the big media. However now things are coming to light which just don&#039;t add up, just like so many other government/ media run schemes.

i&#039;m not trying to be an upstart, but looking at some information from the core samples taken from the greenland ice fields, indicates that it was roughly a few degrees warmer (can&#039;t remember how many exactly) on average in the middle ages than it is now. also according to these and other core samples it sloped down to roughly now when we are on the rise again. i think the last &quot;low point&quot; or whatever was from like 1600&#039;s to the beginning of the 1900&#039;s/very late 1800&#039;s when everything in England froze over big time in the winters for a long period.

point it raises for me is there IS sound and solid evidence that global warming isn&#039;t being caused by CO2 emissions as it happens naturally anyway and some evidence that CO2 emissions aren&#039;t even speeding it up. these people who stand against these theories are being ridiculed, demonized and laughed at because now &#039;&#039;even the government&#039;&#039; is taking global warming as a serious thing. this psychological state seems to make most people feel nice and self-righteous when they talk about it and support government sanctions that get put on  countries and maybe soon enforced quite strongly on a public level. 

this is just another &quot;thing&quot; that has happened with pubic support, rightly or wrongly, which is taking from us and giving more power to the governments. every time something bad happens, even if it is a small event, it gets published in a massive way through the media, the public cry out to the government to do something about it, the the government put sanctions in place to restrict. 

interesting videos to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5_uoFNfJqw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcVo_qYsWks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see, i have avidly been of the opinion that people who deny climate change are on par with rapists since all this stuff hit the big media. However now things are coming to light which just don&#8217;t add up, just like so many other government/ media run schemes.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not trying to be an upstart, but looking at some information from the core samples taken from the greenland ice fields, indicates that it was roughly a few degrees warmer (can&#8217;t remember how many exactly) on average in the middle ages than it is now. also according to these and other core samples it sloped down to roughly now when we are on the rise again. i think the last &#8220;low point&#8221; or whatever was from like 1600&#8242;s to the beginning of the 1900&#8242;s/very late 1800&#8242;s when everything in England froze over big time in the winters for a long period.</p>
<p>point it raises for me is there IS sound and solid evidence that global warming isn&#8217;t being caused by CO2 emissions as it happens naturally anyway and some evidence that CO2 emissions aren&#8217;t even speeding it up. these people who stand against these theories are being ridiculed, demonized and laughed at because now &#8221;even the government&#8221; is taking global warming as a serious thing. this psychological state seems to make most people feel nice and self-righteous when they talk about it and support government sanctions that get put on  countries and maybe soon enforced quite strongly on a public level. </p>
<p>this is just another &#8220;thing&#8221; that has happened with pubic support, rightly or wrongly, which is taking from us and giving more power to the governments. every time something bad happens, even if it is a small event, it gets published in a massive way through the media, the public cry out to the government to do something about it, the the government put sanctions in place to restrict. </p>
<p>interesting videos to watch<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/12/18/class-narratives-and-jim-inhofe-on-climate-change/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/UHiuaGJ46zo/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5_uoFNfJqw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5_uoFNfJqw</a><br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/12/18/class-narratives-and-jim-inhofe-on-climate-change/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/mcVo_qYsWks/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Semple</title>
		<link>http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/12/18/class-narratives-and-jim-inhofe-on-climate-change/#comment-4008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Semple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, per capita, China is one of the cleanest of the industrial nations compared to the US and UK. At least, so says Wikipedia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, per capita, China is one of the cleanest of the industrial nations compared to the US and UK. At least, so says Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/12/18/class-narratives-and-jim-inhofe-on-climate-change/#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is of course the weather is changing, yet you have Brown and Charles flying to a country in different jets empty except for Charles and his ass cleaner tooth paste puller, and you have Brown and a few media to take photo&#039;s.

The idea that it will be the poorest who gets told you cannot fly anymore while the rich pay a little extra like always it will be the bottom of the pile who has to re-pay this , not the rich.

China will pump out CO2 and the UK will sell off it&#039;s carbon to some other country making us do little. It&#039;s 2009 and labour puts money into electric cars , but not enough and to bloody late.

So what will be the benefit of Copenhagen for new labour extra tax, because in the end we all know labour will now pretend to put up fuel to go green to ensure those without money cannot travel.


Look at Trains really green but to expensive for anyone to use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is of course the weather is changing, yet you have Brown and Charles flying to a country in different jets empty except for Charles and his ass cleaner tooth paste puller, and you have Brown and a few media to take photo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The idea that it will be the poorest who gets told you cannot fly anymore while the rich pay a little extra like always it will be the bottom of the pile who has to re-pay this , not the rich.</p>
<p>China will pump out CO2 and the UK will sell off it&#8217;s carbon to some other country making us do little. It&#8217;s 2009 and labour puts money into electric cars , but not enough and to bloody late.</p>
<p>So what will be the benefit of Copenhagen for new labour extra tax, because in the end we all know labour will now pretend to put up fuel to go green to ensure those without money cannot travel.</p>
<p>Look at Trains really green but to expensive for anyone to use.</p>
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