My my, Lord Carey’s bigotry is thinly-veiled these days!
It never fails to surprise me how much attention people like Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, get every time they indulge in utterly predictable rants. Compare, for example, the sentiments behind these remarks at the accession of Gordon Brown in 2007 about immigration, 2008′s sentiments about immigration and last night’s little rant.
On one level, they’re very similar. You have the general theme about the effects of immigration on public services, you have a sop to the anti-racist crowd in comments about poverty being disproportionate amongst young Muslim men (as if that’s a fault of immigration!) and then you have the sting in the tail: the attack on non-Christian immigration and the demand that people must integrate by kowtowing to British values.
And by British values he means Christian values. And by “attack on non-Christian immigration” I’m not extrapolating, Carey himself said he would prefer Christian immigrants, and has stressed the “importance of Christian identity” to the UK.
“What I think I’m concerned about is not saying we must put a limit on people who are non-Christian populations. That’s not the point. We welcome everybody and that’s always been the generous spirit of the United Kingdom.”
But, he said, immigrants must “understand” the UK’s culture, including parliamentary democracy “which is built upon Christian heritage”, “our commitment to the English language” and an understanding the country’s history.
The system should not “give preference to any particular group”, he said, but added that points-based immigration could take these cultural aspects into consideration. (BBC News)
So while protecting himself by saying he doesn’t favour purely Christian immigration, it seems a curious form of dog-whistle politics to then say the opposite, through his points-based immigration system that takes into account the ‘cultural aspects’ he mentions – i.e. our ‘Christian heritage’. He has essentially attempted to connect Christianity with what we expect immigrants to understand and be willing to integrate with. Which is hardly fair for the vast majority of the world’s population, who aren’t Christian.
It’s hard not to agree entirely with Simon Barrow of Ekklesia in a previous retort to the former Archbishop:
“Playing a misleading ‘numbers game’ leaves unaddressed the real problems behind changing patterns of migration – war, instability, massive inequality, displacement and climate change. Many people uproot because they are forced, and turning a few rich Western countries into policed states will not change that.”
Indeed I would go further. Lord Carey despite his recent woolly remarks, has previously attempted to foist the blame for any number of occurrences on to immigration, as well as seeming to regard those of British provenance as somehow above the requirements that might be placed on immigrants (in a moral sense, rather than a technical one).
“With a turnover of a million people in one year, no wonder many people sense that the glue that binds our society together is weakening…It takes time for people of different cultures to get accustomed to each others’ ways and, regrettably, not all newcomers are committed to integration. Some are not even sure about the democratic values that are the very foundation of our society.”
Not all Britons are sure about said ‘democratic values’; certainly not the Christians that keep bleating about a secularist conspiracy (this means you, Dr Sentamu). Pass over that. The ‘glue that binds our society together’ is being weakened by any number of things utterly unrelated to immigration. The passage of once-democratic powers to Quangos or the private sphere are a good example; local health decisions to PCTs and school powers from LEAs to Academy boards.
There’s also the assumption that Christian immigrants will be somehow better at integrating into British culture, or that those who are good at integrating are more likely to be Christian. Is not such an assumption pure bigotry, to assume that one religion – which is far from monolithic – is less prone to violence, extremism and so on than another, irrespective of the complications of comparing different social and economic circumstances? I would say any attempt to connect religion with immigration is utterly bigoted.
More worrying still, and what someone with the intelligent and political nous of George Carey should have been better prepared for, is the wave of pretty naked racism that is following his remarks, no doubt amongst groups like EDL and the BNP, who are already trying to stake a claim to the ‘Christian heritage’ Carey drones on about. Yet this is also happening in the mainstream media no less. Take Telegraph blogs editor Damian Thompson for example:
“Good old George Carey! I never thought I’d write those words, since he talked so much nonsense when he was in office, but in recent years his contacts with the evangelical world have opened his eyes to the shared anti-Christian agenda of multiculturalists and Muslims.”
Multiculturalists and Muslims, mark you, are necessarily anti-Christian. That’s news to me. Could it be, rather, that young Damian just doesn’t like uppity agnostics and other religions objecting to the privileged position of the Anglican church? Or to the state-led imposition of religious values? Might he find it easier to dismiss all such as “multiculturalists and Muslims”? Never mind that this plays right into the hands of the BNP narrative on the same subject.
That is the danger with what Carey is saying, and no doubt MigrationWatch and the other think-tanks will be cashing in on this news cycle as a result of Carey’s remarks. For good reason; whereas Rowan Williams is often considered and attempts conciliation in what he says, Carey in his remarks demonstrates a blatant feeling of Christian superiority over the other religions, which have played their part in the history and culture of this country – and this easily lends itself to racism, since in the UK, most Muslims – the new target group post 9/11 – aren’t white.
He needs to be told this is not acceptable.
Was surprised to find that the link for ‘last night’ was a newspaper article from 16 months ago! I’ve been trying to find the original source for Careys comments about favouring ‘Christian’ immigrants – something he said he wasn’t in favour of on the Today prog this morning – with minimal joy. Where/when did he say it?
Indeed Dave, totally with you on this (makes a change…;)
I really thought I was hearing things when Carey was quoted on the news. Utterly racist and reactionary. And what a surprise the Torygraph blog spouting the same reactionary ideology. But I doubt if Carey gives a damn that his bile has spewed forth ‘naked racism’ from other…
“I hope he will not forget the importance of Christian identity at the very heart of being a part of the United Kingdom.”
Is it? Is it really? What is so wrong with having a secular society and not one where one faith reigns supreme over others. Carey is such a reactionary bigot.
Here endeth the rant!
Of course this is a hardy perennial problem in a country which insists on promoting 11 plus failures to Churchified positions above their level of competence. I can quite see your implied criticism of the comprehensive education fallacy.
In Britain we believe(d) that enlightenment is an iterative process akin to diminishing deception if you like. (Natural justice)
This country’s common law, common decency, common cause, common courtesy and common sense are all based in the knowledge we ain’t perfect but that we should pursue improvement through lessons yet to be revealed by means of the resolution of conflicts at law or by consensus as they arise. The historical ratchet effect. When we are confident that we have established a principle (Magna Carta et seq) agrred by all in our unrepealable adaptibe monoculture we make it unrepealable. Hence our culture adaptsd to absorb incomers. Any subsequent law may only improve on the existing law or the existing law shall apply.
All was well for centuries. Even before democracy grew by males getting the vote the industrial workforce of cities like Leeds was one third Asian or African origin.
BUT then came the post WW2 period and the sociologist (now desperately trying to ban the word “Multicultural” to be replaced with the word “Intercultural” as they arrogantly yield all too slowly to the wisdom of centuries with which they should never have tampered.
WE copped the multicultural “Experiment”. Always unlawful. Admitted by the sociologists themselves to have failed when the Lozells riot rubbed their pseudo-academic noses in their own folly.
And what the multicultural experiment has delivered is a sectarian society. Ask anyone hereabouts in a city like ours with a large muslim population.
An indigenous people who believe that they pursue improvement by resolution and revelation become host to a large immigrant opulation who believe they have a book of the 6th century that has all the answers already.
The multiculturalist believes, as an act of ill informed faith, that all cultures are of equal merit within one land. Yet hypocritically they seek to reject some cultures (such as BNP) as “Odious” or “Racist”. In other words the multiculturalist is a hypocrite who would be God to judge which cultures are acceptable and which not and to turn a blind eye to faults in some cultures lest he be hoist on his own petard as the ultimate racist (the multiculturalist)
Rev. Keen, the remarks were made on Radio 4 this morning, and despite his woolly words, I thought it pretty clear when he said that this country is primarily Christian, that groups which can integrate should be favoured and that those groups would more than likely be Christian. I can, of course, be mistaken. I look forward to seeing a complete copy of the speech.
The links above have been corrected; the bad link was simply me reading around other comments the former Archbishop had made on the same subject.
Richard, not sure who you are, but you’re an idiot. To equate the rejection of the BNP, and the open opposition to their policies, with the persecution and victimisation of Muslims is insane.
In any case, I’m not a multiculturalist; I’m a socialist. I don’t believe that open borders will solve our problems; I believe that solving our problems will lead to open borders.
“I don’t believe that open borders will solve our problems; I believe that solving our problems will lead to open borders.”
What Dave said, completely agree.
Why does every political issue in the UK attract frantic cries of racism? Overpopulation is a serious issue in its own right. You yourself provide a quote in which migration to the UK is said to be partly due to climate change but miss the point that this climate change has only just started. Many of the climate models show most of Southern Europe to be uninhabitable by 2100 at current CO2 emission levels.
See Is Global Warming a threat because of overpopulation?.
The high risk of a murderous effect of population expansion is obvious. It will kill new British Citizens as much as those who have great-grandparents who were British. Given that Britain can only sustain 40 million people climate change may eventually kill 30 million of our grandchildren.
How can anyone argue against the precautionary principle of not increasing the population unsustainably.
Every political issue does not attract frantic cries of racism. If this one does, then it’s because the former Archbishop of Canterbury quite clearly introduced the issues of race and religion into immigration.
I am sure over-population is indeed a serious issue, but the idea that Britain can only sustain forty million people is ludicrous. For a start, we’ve got sixty-odd million at the moment, and we’re sustaining them. We do this by importing whatever we can’t grow or build at home from abroad, that same way that every developed nation does. So what we’re left with is an argument that we should restrict immigration on the basis of various ill-defined effects that it is meant to have on the UK.