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The City of London Corporation’s public meeting on St Paul’s

A City of London Corporation press release says:

The City of London Corporation, which is the Highways Authority for the Square Mile, is set to call a special meeting of its Planning and Transportation Committee for Friday to hear legal advice and decide whether and, if so, how to take legal action to clear the highways around St Paul’s of campers.

The Planning and Transportation Committee would meet in private session to consider the legal advice (my emphasis).

The wording is clever, and may lead members of the public unfamiliar with local government legislation into thinking there’s no point in turning up to such a meeting.

In fact, the meeting is bound by law to open in public, and declarations of personal and prejudicial interests on the part of committee members must be made, in public, in respect of the WHOLE agenda.  In this case, such declarations may prove of interest to the public, where they concern financial or other relations with St Paul’s.

Only after these declarations of interest have been made can a motion then be put to the meeting with the following wording:

That under Section 100(A) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting for the following items on the grounds that they involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in Part I of the Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act.

In this case, the exemption will be sought on the grounds that members will be considering ‘information in respect of which a claim to legal professional privilege could be maintained in legal proceedings’ (Schedule 12A, para 5).

Although any such move is unlikely to succeed, members of the committee are entitled to speak and vote against the motion to hear the legal advice in private, but one or two of them (e.g. The Revd Dr Martin Dudley) might at least be inclined to raise questions on why the motion has been put.

So members of the public who want to witness the start of this meeting, and the likely act of their own exclusion from that meeting, have a legal right to do so

Here is the agenda for the meeting. The venue is the Livery Hall, and the meeting commences at 10.30am.

h/t to @davidallengreen for spotting this meeting was taking place.

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  1. October 27, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Paul, publish this to LibCon asap, this needs a bigger audience. Get people on the corporation’s doorstep.

    • paulinlancs
      October 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm

      I don’t have publishing rights at LibCon. Will email Sunny

  2. Strategist
    October 28, 2011 at 12:02 am

    But does this apply to the Corporation of London, who have all kinds of exemptions and privileges? (Not least an exemption from one person one vote democratic elections.)

    • paulinlancs
      October 28, 2011 at 12:10 am

      The agenda I link to indicates that they have given the Local Goverment Act 1972 due regard, and are bound by normal council rules on this issue, at least.

  3. October 28, 2011 at 12:36 am

    how shrewd is protesting wealth envy?

  4. wheresTheAA
    October 28, 2011 at 2:23 am

    Check this link for minutes to the committee’s recent meetings.
    It seems the exclusion of the public is routine.

    http://www.minutes.org.uk/cgi-bin/cgi002.exe?C,,,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,AGENDA,City+of+London,90,london,44375971,0,BROWSE,,,,,,,,,,P,44375971,0,0,0

  5. Ex-Occupy London
    October 28, 2011 at 7:13 am

    As Occupy London/lsx has continuously excluded working people by holding meetings during working hours when they are unable to attend (and is therefore itself un-democratic) I am not now going to publicise this action. If you work and are now sucker enough to fall for this ‘we need you help us’ then go ahead be a sucker!

  6. Lukus Nine
    October 28, 2011 at 9:24 am

    @ex-ocupy london…
    um…they have meetings at 7pm, and twice on saturday and sundays…….also, I might add that when I visited it nearly everyone I spoke to who was involved in that discussion did in fact have a job. They were either using up holiday days to be there, or visting during the weekend, their lunch break or attending after work.
    There were also several small business owners I met and Freelance / Self Employed persons.
    I met two people who were unemployed, both graduates who had recently been made redundent……they had travelled many miles to be there.

    • Ex-Occupy London
      October 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      @Lucus Nine and Shaun Hines, As you may have gathered from my name (!?!)I’m not forming an opinion from the press. I’ve been attending General Assemblies since the occupation started. Critical ‘emergency’ meetings get held at 4pm as a result working people have no say in critical decisions. Drafts of statements etc. are drawn up during working hours and presented for ‘consensus’ at 7pm – by which time people are under pressure to accept the draft they’ve had no say in. Likewise the teach-ins that happen during working hours without opportunity for working people to participate in are kept exclusively for students and the unemployed.

  7. October 28, 2011 at 11:58 am

    I think it is both sad and quite sinister that a section of our society keep labeling those involved with the ‘Occupy’ movement as work shy layabouts who have nothing better to do. If you take the time to visit (and talk) to the protesters you will discover a community made up of all ages, religions and nationalities, all of whom could be leading much more comfortable lives rather than camping out on cold concrete.

    In addition, I keep reading hyperbolic rants stating that this whole dynamic is ‘Anti-Capitalism’ and posing the question ‘What’s the alternative?’ The former is not strictly true and is, in fact, more to do with us all exploring the latter.

  8. Pimp Monkey Angel
    October 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    For all of those who feel left out that they are unable to attend meetings. This is the internet age so have one meeting at the camp at the prescribed time but also stream the meetings live on ustream and give the viewing public the chance to respond or you could open a discussion topic and allow people to post replies via whatever social media they like using. One cannot please all of the people all of the time and personally, I think that society (or at least the politicians and some memebers of society or the american political pundits) expect that portesters also have to provide a solution and behave in acceptable socio political ways even though you do not even have an office space or desk or political advisors, spin doctors, a cabinet etc etc etc. I personally feel that some people expect too much from Occupy when Occupy are not even being listened to and Occupy are on the edge of being legally evicted from a pavement outside of a Cathederal. The imagery of the hypocracy of this situation, that church leaders would even go to the lengths to use legal or physical force (police, mace, nets. as used in the USA or battons and police riot shields, and kettling!!!!! Of all the places who should have some type of moral compass… a church with vicars and minsters who repeat the words from the bible on a daily basis showing that they have not learned from the mistakes made approximately 2000 years ago. That they too shall walk blindly into the world being lead by their tale and desperation via the principles and desires of financially wealthy organizations. Shame on every level, morally, religiously, humanely.

    • Ex-Occupy London
      October 28, 2011 at 5:30 pm

      Pimp Monkey Angel – how do you propose people watch a live stream at work? … I’m not just talking about tweeks in what goes on. I’m talking about a fundamental bias that persitently undermines the need for people in work to participate – a bias that then gets dressed up in the clothes of “democracy and the 99%”. and a ‘Oh … you know that decision we took in your absence? Well now we’re being evicted and we need you to publicise something for us. Yeah cheers – laters”. And the answer is: GO JUMP!

  9. Edgar
    October 28, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    “how shrewd is protesting wealth envy?”

    Have you heard of bailing out the banks with the publics wealth or are you from another planet?

    Andwhat about the reduction in living standards of many people while directors pay goes up 50%? Why are empoyers so envious of workers pay packets I wonder and why have employers been so envious of workers pensions I wonder? Why are the right so envious of workers public services I wonder?

  10. October 29, 2011 at 2:01 am

    Excellent journalism!

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